Philip @ Mohd Noor

Philip @ Mohd Noor

Philip was adopted from a Singapore orphanage at the time Dr Che Lah was attending a refresher course at the old Tan Tock Seng Hospital in Singapore. Mak said Philip's father was a Danish (orang Denmark) and his mother was a Singaporean Chinese.

Mak helped to look after baby Philip at the Sungai Buloh Settlement for lepers. They all lived there throughout the war (1941-1945).

Philip grew up to become a handsome lad and we all called him Elvis (after Elvis Presley) as he would play the guitar and resembled Elvis Presley. Elvis in YouTube.

Philip @ Mohd Noor in early 1960s

We all waited for the Indian procession to pass along Glugor Road (now Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah), Penang. Philip is at extreme right. My mother is the one holding the little boy's hands.

Philip married twice. He first married a Terengganu beauty queen (Harisah). He then married a lady in Shah Alam. 

One day Philip returned to Penang to see Dr Che Lah. He complained of light headaches and was taken to GH Penang. He was diagnosed of brain tumour and was operated. He did not progress in the post-op period. Philip died from complications following surgical removal of a brain tumour. Philip died in the early 1970s. He did not have any children.

Mak was terribly upset when Philip died as she loved him very much. Mak became very quiet after Philip's death.

I went back to GH Penang in 2012, and there were still people who remembered Philip. There was Encik Ismail Hashim who looked after Philip till he died. Encik Ismail's father knew Dr Che Lah. Encik Ismail recalled they were always together - Philip, Ismail and Jalaluddin (Jalal). Jalaluddin bin Ali Baba was Dr Che Lah's nephew.

http://theearlymalaydoctors.blogspot.com/2011/04/philip-mohd-noor.html

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Kamaruddin Che Lah

Kamaruddin bin Che Lah (born February 1955) attended Melbourne University and the University of Southern Queensland. 

Dr Che Lah bin Md Joonos (Datuk Penang), Kamaruddin Che Lah (Uncle Din), Kamariah (step-aunt) and Mariah @ Chong Nyet Lin (Nenek Penang). Before going for studies overseas. Photographed at 355-A Lengkok Pemancar house. circa 1967

Uncle Din is a civil engineer. He had worked with Majlis Perbandaran Seberang Perai till he retired in February 2015. The planning and development of the USM Institut Perubatan dan Pergigian Termaju (IPPT) Bertam Campus comes under the jurisdiction of Majlis Perbandaran Seberang Perai.

Dr Che Lah is at left. His wife Mariah is standing next to my mother, Tulip, and her sisters Esther and June, and step-sister Kamariah (standing at rear). Uncle Din is at right. Photographed at 460-H Minden Heights, Road 7 house. circa 1978

Uncle Din married Fauziah bt Shaik Emam (Intan) at the E&O Hotel in George Town, Penang. 

Aunty Intan when she married at 24

They have a son, Kamarul Faisal, a computer engineer and graduate from the University of Southern Queensland. Faisal is married.

Uncle Din, son Kamarul Faisal and Aunty Intan

Kamaruddin is my mother's youngest half-brother, and my Uncle Din. Uncle Din is special because he taught me and advised me to learn Malay and to be very prepared for the Malay Government 

Exams which are compulsory for all Malaysian government servants, even today. As much as I hated to learn something 100% in Malay, I was lucky that Uncle Din actually mentally told me what to expect on such government exams and to read up (I could laugh at this suggestion; he knew I wouldn't read anything in Malay) but he was serious, despite teaching me while he was driving. 

It was good that I paid attention to Uncle Din's advice and passed my Malay government exam at second attempt (hahaha....). It was freaking mad at home when my dad found out I had failed my Malay government exams (well, I can tell you I didn't even understand the questions in Malay). 

Can never learn anything right in Malay, can I? Well, I really have to thank Uncle Din for the worry, advice and care he accorded in looking after me and making sure that I could make it in this dog-eat-dog world. 

The Chinese would be very happy if they knew that I was born in the year of the dog! But I'm no dog!

I visited Aunty Intan at 27 Lorong Tenggiri, Seberang Prai on 5 March 2013. Uncle Din was away to get his wounds cleaned by a traditional healer. He had just left home when we arrived at their home. Aunty Intan and her maid were at home. We stayed for an hour before we left to return to Kelantan.

External links:

This is from Uncle Din:
Kamaruddin Che Lah I was at wellesley primary frm 1962 till 1966. Can get his name

Seberang Prai Municipal Council engineering director Kamaruddin Che Lah 

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2012/05/03/project-driving-em-round-the-bend/#LbMQV4wI3cPkTT8C.99

Urban Planning, 2005
Mr. Kamaruddin Che Lah, Director of Engineering Dept. Seberang Perai Municipal Council, Majlis Perbandaran Seberang Perai, Jalan Datuk Hj Ahmad Said, 12000 Butterworth, Penang, Malaysia; tel: (60) 4 – 3105600 
http://www.durban.gov.za/Documents/City_Government/Cifal/Sustainable%20Urban%20Transport%20in%20Asia%20and%20the%20Pacific%20Region,%20June%2012-19%202005.pdf?Mobile=1

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Daisy Yvette Che Lah

Daisy Yvette (born Wednesday, 17 July 1935) married to Robert Jansz a civil engineering clerk (deceased circa 1988) and has seven married children – Jennifer, Christopher, Robert, Frances, Andrew, Mildred and Vicky. All the families live in Western Australia.

Jansz is a Jewish name, so says my Sabbatical supervisor, Prof Frank van Bockxmeer, DNA Lab, Royal Perth Hospital, Feb-March 1995. Frank said Jansz is also a surname of his Jewish relatives. Frank says he is related to the Jansz.

When I was doing my PhD at the University of Western Australia (UWA, 1986-1989), my family and I visited Aunty Daisy at home, close to Christmas, and we had lunch together. Most of her children also came to see us. She was a good cook. She made sambal udang kering which I particularly liked. I had never tasted the dish before and I don't know how to make the dish. I tried making it but it didn't taste as good as the one she cooked in Balga. Aunty Daisy sold off her Balga home.

Aunty Daisy moved to Mandurah, Western Australia in November 2011. Her 7 married children live in Perth and the eldest lives near Mandurah. My husband Affandi and my younger son Ibrahim visited Aunty Daisy in October 2012. Ibrahim has all the reunion photos of October 2011 (ask him in Facebook). Either Affandi or Ibrahim has Aunty Daisy's address and phone #. I had it on my table but lost the info.

Mandurah is by the coast, further down south of Perth. Take the train from Perth Station direct to Mandurah Station (with a few stops along the way, depending on which train line). Ask Affandi in Facebook for the train info.

Affandi and I phoned Aunty Daisy. Unfortunately Aunty Daisy does not use the computer and is not connected to the Internet. So we can't be connected online in Facebook. But she is fine and healthy, with memory failing a bit. But she remembers me as Tulip's daughter and the one who did PhD at UWA way back more than 20 years ago (when her husband Robert died). She asked me to come and visit her. In sya Allah, I will do just that.

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Tulip Che Lah (3) Biography

Hajah Jumabee Tulip bt Che Lah (Wednesday, 4 November 1931-Saturday, 5 June 2004) married to Haji Abdul Rashid bin Mohd Yusope (Saturday, 28 November 1931-Sunday, 8 March 2009). They both aspired to be doctors but had obstacles and had to abandon their dreams. They both opted for teaching and attended the Malayan Teachers’ Training College at Kirkby, near Liverpool, England. After completing their studies, they both taught at Jasin English Primary School, Malacca before they married in Bandar Hilir, Malacca on Saturday, 24 December 1955.

Tulip grew up in Kuala Lumpur and was trained as a pianist. She completed her piano Grade 8 in England. She had a flair for languages, loved art and craft, sewing plus outdoor activities. She was a good debater, sprinter, swimmer and played field hockey as well as ice hockey. She became a teacher and taught English, Civics and Geography for 33 years. She was in charge of the Girl Guides and the St John Ambulance at the schools where she taught in Malaya and Borneo. A trusted person, she was placed in charge of the handover of the Cambridge examinations to the Malaysian authority for the Home Science component while living in Kedah (early to mid-1960s). She taught at Sabah College in Jesselton, Sultan Ismail School and Sultan Ismail College (SIC) in Telipot in Kelantan, Malacca Girls’ High School at Durian Daun and Penang Chinese Girls’ School in Gottlieb Road, near Pulau Tikus, Penang.

Her husband, Abdul Rashid loved carpentry, house building and electrical wiring besides scouting activities, fishing and swimming. He attended the Malay College Kuala Kangsar and then went to study in England. He worked as a Simultaneous Interpreter in the Malaysian Parliament for the first Malaysian Cabinet before he quit and returned to teaching. He was a lecturer for the Malay Language at the Jalan Day Teachers' Training College in Alor Star, Kedah. He last taught Mathematics and Physics at Maktab Perguruan Pulau Pinang. He taught for more than 30 years (1954-1986).

The couple has seven children – Mohd Sharif, Sharifah, Faridah (that's me), Rabi’ah, Mohd Farid, Mohd Amin and Aminah.

Tulip passed away in 2004 and is interred at Tanah Perkuburan Islam Selayang Baru in Selayang. This is an old and expansive graveyard, but it is fast filling up, and almost full in 2012. Her grave # is A433.

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FAQ

People have asked me these questions.

1. Is there a sib named Tuan Haji Samsudin bin Mohd Joonos?

At the time of this writing, it is known that Dr Che Lah had no sib named Tuan Haji Samsudin bin Mohd Joonoos.


2. Is Dr Che Lah related to Che Tot Junoos?

Dr Che Lah is not related to Che Tot Junoos (who was called Tok Mamee Tot) who stayed in front of the mosque at Kampung Makam in Penang, and her brother, Mohamed Yusoff Junoos. However, the search for the relatives of Mohamed Yusoff Junoos by his great grandson Iszham Idris (Negeri Sembilan) is on-going.

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Family Tree of the Shaik Ahmad clan

Is there a family tree for the Shaik Ahmad clan? Yes. I am a 5th-generation descendant (G5) from Shaik Ahmad. Where are you on the Shaik Ahmad family tree?

Sources of Information

(1) From Uncle Din (Kamaruddin bin Che Lah)
There is a family tree constructed of Shaik Ahmad's clan.

(2) From Uncle Dahlan bin Daud & Aunty Aishah adopted d/o Daud
There is a family tree constructed by Abdul Hannis bin Abdul Aziz.

(3) From Abdul Hannis bin Abdul Aziz
Abdul Hannis has constructed the Shaik Ahmad clan family tree and that is available online.

(4) From Datuk Dr Zulkifli bin CD Ismail
Datuk Dr Zulkifli operates the Yahoo Group for the Shaik Ahmad clan online. Please email him at: Shaikahmad-owner@yahoogroups.com

(5) From Azizah Begum bt Shaik Habib Noohu
Puan Azizah (formerly at USM Penang; moved to UMP, Pahang) is a relative. She says the clan is also related to Habib Noh in Singapore.

(6) From Ayah Wan Noordin Merican (deceased)
Ayah Wan Noordin Merican (Facebook) says Tulip Che Lah and the Shaik Ahmad clan are related to the Merican clan. Ayah Wan Noordin Merican is a cousin of Baizura Mohd Zan, Mastura Mohd Zan, Syawaluddin Mohd Zan, and Kamarul Akhir Mohd Zan.


First Generation (G1)

In Malaya, Shaik Ahmad married Puan Hajar of Butterworth and they had six children (three sons and three daughters) (G2):-

1. Hamidah Bee bt Shaik Ahmad
2. Jan Bee bt Shaik Ahmad
3. Mohd Joonos bin Shaik Ahmad 
4. Mohd Ali bin Shaik Ahmad 
5. Mariam bt Shaik Ahmad, and
6. Captain Md Noor bin Shaikh Ahmad.

Second Generation (G2)

1. Hamidah Bee bt Shaik Ahmad 
2. Jan Bee bt Shaik Ahmad 
3. Mohd Joonos bin Shaik Ahmad was a clerk. Mohd Joonos married Juma Bee binti Kassim and they had five children (a daughter and four sons) (G3):-

               1) Che Bee (Mak Besar Bee) bt Md Joonos
               2) Dr Che Lah bin Md Joonos
               3) Ali Baba bin Md Joonos

               4) Osman bin Md Joonos and,
               5) Mohamad bin Md Joonos.
   4. Mohd Ali bin Shaik Ahmad
   5. Mariam bt Shaik Ahmad, and
   6. Captain Md Noor bin Shaik Ahmad.


Third Generation (G3)

1) Che Bee (Mak Besar Bee) bt Md Joonos (eldest sister of Dr Che Lah),
2) Dr Che Lah bin Md Joonos (eldest of 4 brothers),
3) Ali Baba bin Md Joonos,

4) Osman bin Md Joonos and,
5) Mohamad bin Md Joonos. 

• Mak Besar Bee married Omar 
• Dr Che Lah married twice.
• Dr Che Lah’s younger brother, Ali Baba married Bee Bee Johara bt Mohd Jalaludin and they had 11 children.
• Osman was a train engine driver.
• Nothing is known about the youngest brother, Mohamad.

Fourth Generation (G4)

Dr Che Lah married twice to non-Malays.


First marriage. Dr Che Lah first married a Ceylon Burgher trainee nurse who studied at the General Hospital Kuala Lumpur, named Maimunah @ Catherine Daisy de Coursey Bulner  in early 1931. Catherine was born on 5 March 1911 in Kandy, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka) and came to Malaya as a child with her family. The Straits Times of 24 July 1933 reported Dr and Mrs Che Lah had attended a concert held at the Anglo-Chinese School in Klang on 17 July 1933. The concert was for raising the building fund for the ACS at Kapar. Others who were present at the concert were Mr L Forbes (District Officer, Klang), Che Osman (Magistrate, Klang), Inche Mohd Salleh (District Office, Kuala Langat), Dr and Mrs Farris, and Dr A Visuvalingam.  According to Esther, Dr Che Lah remained with Catherine till after the war (1948). They went separate ways in 1949.

Second marriage. Dr Che Lah then married a Hospital Bangsar matron, Mariah @ Chong Nyet Lin in 1953. She was Hokkien and was popularly known as Matron Mariah or Matron and was addressed as Madam Chong on envelopes received at her home at 355-A Lengkok Pemancar, Gelugor, Penang.

Children. Dr Che Lah had four daughters by Daisy Catherine and a son by Mariah. He adopted two more babies. He adopted a Eurasian infant named Philip @ Mohd Noor from a Singapore orphanage and raised him at Sungai Buloh during the war. After the Malayan Independence, Dr Che Lah adopted a Chinese newborn as his own daughter.

1. Jumabee Tulip bt Che Lah (Wednesday, 4 Nov 1931-Sat, 5 June 2004) 
2. Jaleha Esther (born Friday, 10 March 1933-deceased) 
3. Jamaliah June (Friday, 29 June 1934-1982) 
4. Daisy Yvette (born Wednesday, 17 July 1935) 
5. Philip @ Mohd Noor (born 1944; deceased 1970s); adopted son
6. Kamaruddin bin Che Lah (born February 1955)
7. Kamariah (born 1959); adopted daughter 

Fifth Generation (G5)
Jumabee Tulip bt Che Lah married to Haji Abdul Rashid bin Mohd Yusope. They have seven children – Mohd Sharif, Sharifah, Faridah (that's me), Rabi’ah, Mohd Farid, Mohd Amin and Aminah.

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Shaik Ahmad (Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan) c1839 - c1909

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FAMILY HISTORY OF THE SHAIK AHMAD CLAN

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Shaik Ahmad
(computer-generated image)

How did the Shaik Ahmad clan came to be in Penang? What happened in our clan history? What is the source of our clan history? 

I will share with you a bit of the history of the Shaik Ahmad clan, from whatever I have heard and know from my mother and my research. There are many accounts, stories and theories.

(1) From Tok Kamarudin bin Captain Mohamed Noor

According to Tok Kamarudin bin Captain Md Noor, Shaik Ahmad was from Hyderabad near Darjeeling in Deccan, India. In the 1800s, Shaik Ahmad came to Malaya with the British army. Shaik Ahmad was either a dhobi or tailor in the British Army.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5q7E-H5bPE


(2) Hyderabad from a Hyderabad Indian professor's POV (point of view)

I met Prof Ravindra of UMS (Universiti Malaysia Sabah) on 4 March 2013 at the PhD viva for Ms Lye Huey Shi, PPTI, USM Penang and after the viva, on our way to Kapitan Restaurant near Queensbay Mall, Penang. Prof Ravindra has been with UMS for eight years. I asked him about Indian social etiquettes. According to him, Indian females do not shake hands with males. However, today, they are not shy nor care, and they not only shake hands but also hug and kiss as part of meet and greet or parting. I asked Prof Ravindra where he was from. He is from Hyderabad. I asked him about Hyderabad. I also informed him that my ancestors were from Hyderabad. He asked whether I still have relatives in Hyderabad. I replied I don't know. Prof Ravindra said to contact him should I want to go to Hyderabad. He can show me around Hyderabad. I thanked him.


(3) From Uncle Abdul Mutalib bin Abdul Wahab (his mother Zainab Bee bt Captain Mohamed Noor was the eldest child)

Shaik Ahmad was from Hyderabad, who came with the British Army to Malaya/Penang. He and another army man were assigned to work under Brown. He was either a cobbler or tailor.


(4) From my research

Shaik Ahmad came to Province Wellesley, Penang in 1860s as the (East) Bengal marines and lascars under the British Army. He was probably first temporarily stationed at the army base in Province Wellesley, Butterworth before coming to  live at Glugor on Penang island. It was probably a quarantine army base before the army was allowed on Penang island.

On Penang island, Shaik Ahmad probably lived in a kampung house in Jelutong, possibly near Masjid Jelutong. He married a Siamese Malay lady and raised his family in Jelutong and/or Glugor. He possibly worked at the British naval base in Glugor and/or the Brown family in Glugor. His youngest son Captain Mohamed Noor bin Shaik Ahmad was born in 1890 at Glugor.

He was either a tailor, dhobi or cobbler. Most probably he was a tailor. He was sent to work under "Mr Brown" at Glugor Estate in Penang. 

Which "Mr Brown" did Shaik Ahmad work for?

• James Scott was already deceased when Shaik Ahmad arrived to work in Penang circa 1860s.
• David Brown was already deceased when Shaik Ahmad arrived to work in Penang circa 1860s.
• The Duke of Edinburgh visited Penang in 1869. The Penang welcoming party consisted a few men:

1. Colonel Anson, Governor of Penang

2. Sir Harry Ord, Governor of the Straits Settlements

3. F. S. Brown of Glugor Estate

4. Sir William Hackett Judge

Shaik Ahmad could have worked for any of the Brown family members from 1860 onward:

1. the 2nd/3rd/5th sons of David Brown
2. grandsons David Alexander Murray Brown (DAM Brown) and Laurie Brown
3. J. G. Brown
4. granddaughter Sarah Holdway Brown 
5. F. S. Brown - most probable

In Malaya, Shaik Ahmad married Puan Hajar and they had six children (three sons and three daughters). 

• Hajar's origin is unknown. Her surname is unknown. There is no mention of her background. She could possibly be from 3 places: 1) Bagan Dalam in Butterworth on the mainland, 2) Jelutong in Penang or 3) Glugor in Penang. We can only guess about her likely origin.
• Their children were possibly born in Butterworth, Jelutong or Glugor, all in Penang. 
• Their date of birth and demise are unknown as there are no documents available concerning them except for Captain Mohamed Noor bin Shaik Ahmad, MBE, which was published in the local newspaper. Captain Mohamed Noor bin Shaik Ahmad, MBE was born in Glugor in 1890.

The Shaik Ahmad clan ancestral graves are located at Jalan Perak (Perak Road cemetery), close to the main road.

(5) From Faridah Abu Hassan

Shaik Ahmad was a tailor (Hindi: darjee).

दर्जी

darjee

Hindi: Darjee wala = tailor

(6) Shaik Ahmad was with Muslim Society at Masjid Kapitan Kling

• Shaik Ahmad had no surname. His surname is unknown.
• Shaik Ahmad was a well-known public figure in Penang. 
• He was Assistant Secretary for the Muslim Society at Masjid Kapitan Kling. 
• His name appears as Shaik Ahmed, Assistant Secretary of Muslim Society based at Masjid Kapitan Kling in George Town, Penang. 

MUSLIM SOCIETY-Kapitan Kling Mosque, Penang

• President-E. Abdullah Merican
• Vice-Presidents-Syed Mashoor bin Ali, Mushoot, Md Ismail
• Hon. Secretary-H. M. Qassim Sahibal-Sailany
• Assistant Secretary-Shaik Ahmed
• Auditor-M. Abdul Gunney Merican
• Kazi-Syed Hussain Idroos
• Mufti-Shaik Davood Tamim
• Kathi-Hajee Yuhia
• Imam-Haji Abdulla

(7) Place of origin

• Shaik Ahmad was from Hyderabad city, in Sindh region, in Pakistan, Undivided India.
• Hyderabad in Sindh region is approx. 2 hours drive from Karachi, which is on the coast.
• Hyderabad in Sindh region is the CBD (central business district) for the interior region of modern Pakistan. It is well-developed and has many textile mills and industries along the Pulelli canal. It has universities, an army base, hospitals, mosques and shops.
• The shops, signboards and businesses in Hyderabad, Sindh region, use Jawi script.
• There are various settlements or colonies scattered throughout Hyderabad in the Sindh region.
• Shaik Ahmad had most probably worked as a young tailor in the textile mill or as a street cobbler in Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan, before joining the British Indian Army in Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan. 
• The British Indian Army hired young Pakistani men, as young as 18 years old.
• Shaikh Ahmad probably joined the British Indian Army in Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan, and as a young man, possibly around age 25. 
• It seemed that Shaik Ahmad's British Indian Army regiment then migrated from Hyderabad, Sindh in Pakistan, to Hyderabad, Telangana in the Deccan Plateau, India, where the British Army gathered its army from various regions in India, and was stationed for quite sometime for the army personnel to get acclimatised. 
• Shaik Ahmad could have probably travelled on horses as the British Indian Army had horses to tackle the rough terrain of the Deccan Plateau. 
• There was no proper road linking Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan to Hyderabad, Deccan, India in the old days because there was a treacherous mountainous ridge that divided Pakistan and India. 
• From the interior highlands of Hyderabad, Deccan, India, Shaik Ahmad then travelled with the British Indian Army to coastal Mumbai (now Chennai).
• The British Indian Army then brought Shaik Ahmad and the other Pakistani men to board British vessels which carried army personnel (soldiers) and sailed to Province Wellesley, Penang, Malaya. 
• The British Indian Army landed at Kuala Muda, where there were sufficiently good shipping facilities and sheltered deep seaport for sea vessels to safely dock.
• The British Indian Army controlled the deep seaport at Kuala Muda. 
• The British Indian Army base was at Kuala Muda and possibly near Kg Benggali at Penaga.
• Other battalions of army personnel of the British Indian Army were sent to Singapore and possibly other places. 
• It is not known if Indian convicts from the Indian sub-continent travelled on the same vessels as the British Indian Army Pakistani men from Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan.
• All the British Indian Army Pakistani men were given a one-way ticket to Penang, Malaya; there was no returning to their homeland.

(8) Languages spoken

What languages did Shaik Ahmad speak, know or used?

We can only make an educated guess and deliberate about it.

He was from Pakistan. What are the languages used in Pakistan?

Shaik Ahmad's mother tongue was possibly Hindi. 

Shaik Ahmad possibly went to school and learned English

Shaik Ahmad possibly knew other languages from mixing with people who spoke other languages if he was trading - Urdu, Arabic, Tamil

Shaik Ahmad worked as Assistant Secretary for the Muslim Society based at Masjid Kapitan Keling in George Town, Penang. So he must have known Tamil and was proficient in Tamil (spoken, reading and writing).

• Hindi - most likely
• Urdu - some words appear in Hindi
• Arabic - some words appear in Hindi
• Tamil - a language in south India; Deccan is in central India
• English - if educated and taught in school

Hindi words translated to English:

मोची

mochee = cobbler

दर्जी
darjee = tailor

धोबी
dhobee = dhobi

सचिव
sachiv = secretary

क्लर्क
klark = clerk

पुलिस
pulis = police

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FAMILY TREE OF SHAIK AHMAD (HYDERABAD)

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First Generation

1. Shaik Ahmad (Hyderabad, Sindh, Pakistan) - born in (East) Bengal in Undivided India, estimated to have lived circa 1839 -1909, arrived in Penang in 1863 with the British Indian Army, married in Penang in 1864, came to live on Penang island in Jelutong/Glugor in 1864 - 1909, served the Brown family in Glugor under Messrs. J. G. Brown or Messrs. F. S. Brown, and died in Glugor. He is buried at Perak Road cemetery, near the main road (Perak Road, now Jalan Perak).
2. Hajar (wife of Shaik Ahmad) was possibly born in Kedah/Penang or Langkawi, and was estimated to have lived circa 1851 - 1931. She married at age 13, and had 6 children. She is deceased at age 80 years. She is buried at Perak Road cemetery near Shaik Ahmad.
3. It is unknown whether Shaik Ahmad outlived Hajar or Hajar died later than Shaik Ahmad.
4. Their exact graves cannot be determined today because the inscriptions on the wooden tombstones have all disappeared now.
5. Dr Che Lah's son, Kamaruddin bin Che Lah knows the graves but it is difficult for him to get there from his home in Seberang Perai and to navigate the graveyard at Perak Road (Jalan Perak) as he is wheel-chair bound now.

Shaik Ahmad married Hajar (kakak), who was the eldest of three sibs.

        (i) Hajar (elder sister)

        (ii) T. Sara married Md Shariff and their son is Nasarudin

        (iii) Mai Sari in Langkawi?

• Nothing is known about Hajar
• Hajar's younger sister is T. Sara. She could be Mai Sara or T. Mai Sara.
• Hajar's youngest sib from Langkawi could be Mai Sari or T. Mai Sari.
• The sisters could be Kedah Malay, Siamese Malay or Acehnese Malay. We can only postulate and deliberate.
• It seemed that T. Sara had married to Md Shariff and their son is Nasaruddin/Nasrudin/Nasarudin.
• It is unlikely that this Md Shariff who married T. Sara is Md Shariff bin Awang Osman who was born in 1890 (same year as Captain Mohd Noor bin Shaikh Ahmad).
• Nothing is known about Hajar's sib in Langkawi. However, some descendants have responded that their ancestors were from Langkawi. Their father had visited Langkawi to trace his ancestors there.

[1] From Faridah Abu Hassan

 

Whom did Shaik Ahmad marry? Where was his wife from?

There were 2 sisters (Mai Sara and Mai Sari). Shaik Ahmad married one of the 2 sisters.

[2] Was Shaik Ahmad's wife from Langkawi?

[3] What does the letter 'T' stand for in T. Sara? Does T stand for Tengku, Tunku, Teuku or Tuan? 

[4] What is the Siamese equivalent for royal titles? 

• A Thai prince is called Pya or Nyai.
• Ghazali Abdul Ghani (anak Rabiah) has great interests in history.

Second Generation

1. Hamidah Bee bt Shaik Ahmad was born in Penang; estimated to have lived circa 1865-1952; deceased aged 87 years or earlier.
2. Jan Bee bt Shaik Ahmad was born in Penang; estimated to have lived circa 1870-1952; deceased aged 82 years or earlier.
3. Mohd Joonos bin Shaik Ahmad was born in Penang; worked as a clerk; estimated to have lived circa 1875-1952; deceased aged 77 years; married Juma Bee bt Kassim (c.1887-c.1952, 65 years) circa 1900 and had 5 kids (1 girl and 4 boys). Juma Bee bt Kassim was from Kg Dodol in Perak Road, Jelutong West. This was probably her second marriage. She had first married to Mohamed and had a daughter, Wan Su Mohamed. Mohamed died early, and Juma Bee bt Kassim then remarried to Md Joonos bin Shaik Ahmad.
4. Mohd Ali bin Shaik Ahmad was born in Penang; estimated to have lived circa 1880-1952; deceased aged 72 years.
5. Mariam bt Shaik Ahmad was born in Penang; estimated to have lived circa 1885-1952; deceased aged 67 years.
6. Captain Md Noor bin Shaik Ahmad, MBE was born in 1890 in Glugor; lived to age 79 years (born 1890-d.1969); worked as Malay Interpreter at the High Court in George Town, Penang. He also served in SSVF for Penang and Province Wellesley (PWVC). He married 3 wives and had 19 kids.

Third Generation 

From Mohd Joonos bin Shaik Ahmad and Juma Bee bt Kassim:

1. Mak Besar Bee bt Mohd Joonos (born c.1901-died c.1952, 52 years)
2. Dr Che Lah bin Mohd Joonos (born 1903 Penang - d.1986 Penang, 82 years)
3. Ali Baba bin Mohd Joonos (born c.1905-died c.1952, 47 years or greater)
4. Osman bin Mohd Joonos (born c.1907-died c.1952, 45 years or greater)
5. Mohamed bin Mohd Joonos (born c.1909-died c.1952, 43 years or greater)

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I'm making this blog for my mother, her siblings, parents, and ascendants. You can join this blog as guest writers and then write for this blog. I am also in Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/faridah.abdulrashid.

TQ

Prof Faridah

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