Mak Besar Bee is in a group photo for my mother's send-off at Port Swettenham in Klang, Selangor.
Below is a group photo taken in 1952 on the deck of the ship Carthage, at Port Swettenham (now Port Klang) in Klang, Selangor. Mak Besar Bee is at far left. This photo shows that Mak Besar Bee was still alive in 1952 and had a few daughters, mostly about my mother's age (21).
 |
| Standing from left: Mak Besar Bee bt Md Joonos, little girl, lady with black selendang on shoulder, lady with selendang like a tie in front, Khala Wan Chik, Kalsom, June and (Tulip?). Esther is kneeling. This photo was taken on the deck of Carthage, at Port Swettenham, now Port Klang. The occasion was Tulip's send-off to England. Tulip went to study at Kirkby. |
----------------------
Communication in Facebook on 11 and 12 June 2017:
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Esther Schokman
Esther Schokman kneeling, June standing behind her and Tulip to the left of June.
Lisa Jansz
Jenny Laughton
Esther Schokman
Extreme left, Aunty Besar. 5th from left is Wan Cik. On her left is Kalsom and June.
This on the deck of the ship in Port Swettenham, now known as Port Klang.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Which Kalsom is this?
Esther Schokman
I think this Kalsom is Aunty Besar's eldest daughter, but I'm not sure.
She always comes with Wan Tam n Wan CHIK to visit us in Port Dickson.
After dinner they tell us all sorts of stories.
That's all I can remember.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
TQVM for your information.
Suzanne Schokman · 3 mutual friends
Pretty lass, Auntie Esther!
Auntie Besar... sounds like a good story there.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Aunty Besar is Mak Besar Bee, Dr Che Lah's eldest and only sister.
If she was born in 1901, then she would be about 51 years old in 1952.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Did Aunty Besar live in Kg Sg Gelugor in Penang? Yes. There is a photo taken of her wooden house in Kg Sg Gelugor in 1952, with Dr Che Lah on the verandah and his and her children in the foreground.
Esther Schokman
Aunty Besar Iived there as her husband was teaching in the nearby school, is that correct?
Kalsom, isn't she one of Aunty Besar's daughters?
She was always with Wantum n Wancik whenever they visited us.
Especially when my father was attached to the Military Malay Regiment in Port Dickson as the Medical Officer.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
I don't know as I haven't heard of Kalsom's name.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Why do they have "Wan" in their names?
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Wan Tam is Mami Tam? What is her real name?
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Aunty Besar Bee bt Md Joonos married Omar bin Nasarudin and had 4 kids - Abu Hassan, Khala Wan Chik, Mami Tam and Ibrahim (Naim).
Faridah Abdul Rashid
I don't know the real names of Aunty Besar Bee and Mami Tam.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Aunty Esther Schokman, would you know when Aunty Besar Bee, her husband and children were born or died?
===================
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Sorry to interrupt you (Faridah Abdul Rashid) did mentioned just now that Kg. Sg. Gelugor was something special.
In fact my late mom (Zainab Bee bt.SA Md. Noor) was born there and had her education there.
She had relative by the name of Pak Daud, a penghulu.
Wan Pah (with blonde hair) was Abd. Kadir's first wife and many more I cannot remember.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
TQ, Uncle. It is great to know that Nenek Zainab Bee was born in Kg Sg Gelugor and went to Sek Melayu Sg Gelugor.
Pak Daud's son is Dahlan, whom I met at my father's funeral in 2009.
Mohd Ebram bin Nasarudin married (Singapore wife) -- second wife. Their daughter is Wan Pah.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Who is Abdul Kadir?
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Abdul Kadir is my mother's brother. He is Capt. Mohd Noor's son from first wife, Wan Teh.
Pls follow their sibling that I have given you.
Abdul Kadir then married Wan Chik his second wife.
Abdul Kadir is a respected person in Glugor, he was a Glugor Councillor.
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Sad to say otherwise we would have move back staying in Pg.
As u know after my parent's marriage they migrated to Kedah.
My father worked at PWD as a 'pelukis plan rumah' draftsman.
When my father retired my mom was eager of buying a house in Gelugor.
We approached Kadir to buy a double-storey house at Minden Heights (if not mistaken follow the road from Glugor Clinic).
The house construction was nearly completed. We only threw a small amount of down payment.
The developer kept on asking for progressive payment.
As you know not an easy huge some of money to be drawn out easily.
So what happened, our down payment was burnt and the house went to another person on the waiting list.
Otherwise we would be staying around Dr Che Lah's house.
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Allah is great. In exchange after failure of buying a house in Pg, we managed to buy a piece of land in Sg. Petani, Kedah.
After sub-dividing it consists of 5 housing plots. Wow! Its market value now is very costly.
Everybody of my brothers and sisters started making houses there.
==========
Faridah Abdul Rashid
When I lived in Penang, I saw 2 relatives. One was a woman who dyed her shoulder-length hair orange with inai (henna).
She was very attractive. She would walk by the roadside from Kg Sg Gelugor towards the Masjid.
Then there was a very old man with songkok - Ali or Ali Baba? I don't know them.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
There was a relative called Aunty Betty. She came to visit my grandfather. We walked in the garden.
It was interesting because my grandfather had a small dog, also named Betty. Who is Aunty Betty?
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Aunty Betty is Hayati Meah's wife. Hayati Meah is my uncle, my mum's brother.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
I see. TQ for your information.
==========
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
I guess either Esther Schokman or Suzanne Schokman can recollect something about Capt. SA Mohd. Noor's family.
My aunty's (Zahora Bee) husband Abu Hassan was from Gelugor too. Later, he joined the British Army and settled there.
Esther Schokman
I don't think Suzanne Schokman knows anything about relatives in Sg Glugor.
Only my sisters would often go there during our younger days.
Aunty Besar's house is where my father can be seen behind the group picture.
Aunty Zohara n Uncle Abu Hassan was in Singapore when I first remember them.
They were staying in Pulau Blakangmati, where my mother's sister Aunt Sheila n Uncle Rudge lived on Pulau Blakangmati.
Their daughter Farida Abu Hassan was then a small girl.
I think Aunty Zohara had a brother named Rahim, not very sure. Can you remember?
Md Al-Jeffrey Schokman
Salam Abdul Mutalib Wahab. Faridah Abu Hassan stays in Taman Permata, Selangor now. I am in touch with her often.
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
You're right, Esther Schokman.
Abd. Rahim bin SA Mohd. Noor is my uncle. There are 6 in a family from Capt. Mohd. Noor's first wife.
Owh u know Zahora's daughter Dato Faridah Abu Hassan. Ya, she stays in Tmn Permata KL.
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
It's great! Thanks to know both of you, Esther and Md. Al- Jeffrey.
Md Al-Jeffrey Schokman
Likewise
=============
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Sorry. Abu Hassan joined the British Army and settled in Singapore.
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
I started guessing who is Aunty Besar Bee married to Omar bin Nasarudin?
Am I wrong Abu Hassan is Omar's son?
Because Abu Hassan surname is Omar too?
Esther Schokman
Abu Hassan is Aunty Besar's son, n Dr Che Lah's nephew.
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
That's why Abu Hassan face is similar to Dr. Che Lah.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Has anyone got a photo of Abu Hassan?
Abdul Mutalib Wahab
Why not contact Jeff?
Esther Schokman
Maybe his daughter may have some photos of her father and her family members.
Farida as I know her as Fairy when we were kids were wonderful days/years on Pulau Blakangmati.
Abu Hassan was a Sargent in the British Army.
She should be having some photos of us as kids.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Abu Hassan bin Omar is Aunty Besar's son.
Aunty Besar is the eldest and only sister of Dr Che Lah.
Abu Hassan is Dr Che Lah's nephew.
=================
Esther Schokman Kalsom
Isn't yo Wan Tum n Wan Chik is to the left of them. The rest may be Katijah n the other I can't remember.
I hope u can find out from Din, not sure. He might have more photos of our families.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Kamaruddin Che Lah, need your help to ID people in the photo.
Faridah Abdul Rashid
Who is Khatijah?
No comments:
Post a Comment